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But still, the interviewer might be making a difference between "ordinary claim that Jesus is a fully enlighted person" and "not-ordinary claim that Jesus is a fully enlighted person". Maybe that is what I am missing in all this.
Maybe the interviewer is calling "ordinary" a claim made by someone who cannot concieve that a fully enlightened person might use "wicked" ways (like using lies, "hidden truths" or parables for IandI sake)to show his/her teachings. Perhaps I got missed in that.
Much Love again sister.
go-Yo
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