Here's a recent release by the Al Qaeda. It is probably based on truth; i.e., they probably have the nukes in here. Certainly the Russians inserted clandestine nuclear weapons in major U.S. cities before the collapse of the Soviet Empire in 1989. They are still here in U.S. cities, along with the Spetznaz teams to set them off on order. Read Lunev's book; he tells how the Russians inserted them. And the Al Qaeda statement about standard containers not being checked, or hardly at all is quite true. Only some 2% of them are ever checked anywhere in the world. So one could indeed ship in nukes exactly as they stated; the big drug cartels ship a great deal of their drugs that way.

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PLANETNEWS broadcast...

This is the interview that a lot of people have been talking about: This

interview was sent to Abel-Bari Atwan, chief editor of Al Quds, an

Arabic-language newspaper published in London, but was never printed, due to

its highly revealing [inflammatory?] contents. A copy of the interview came

to Foz-do-Iguaçu, and was translated into Portuguese by a university

professor in the city's Arab community. This is probably the only existing

version of this interview not in Arabic.

Al-Jazeera: What is the objective of the Al Queda network?

Al-Asuquf: To destroy the Great Satan, that is, the United States and

Israel.

Al-Jazeera: Why?

Al-Asuquf: The USA over the past 60 years has been impregnating [infecting]

the world with its arrogance, greed and malfeasance. It is the incarnation

of all that is evil. The people of this planet don't deserve this torture.

Al-Jazeera: Isn't this view somewhat one-sided?

Al-Asuquf: No, one only has to observe recent events. The disrespect of the

Kyoto treaty; the case of the Permanent Court of International Justice,

their inaction with regards to our Palestinian brothers; the financial greed

and absurd speculations in Third World countries; the complete indifference

to other oppressed people and countless other situations which all of the

world's leaders well know. And on top of all that, the Bush doctrine of

"shoot first and ask questions later." This is an unacceptable abuse and

will therefore have very grave consequences.

Al-Jazeera: But the isn't the development and influence of America the fruit

of its own competence?

Al-Asuquf: Competence in extortion, competence in subjugation, competence in

lying. After the Second World War, the USA was the only industrialized

country with its manufacturing infrastructure intact. Loaning money like a

good loan shark, it ended up becoming a very rich and powerful country;

however, its greed remained undiminished. Today, Americans live like

maharajas [?], wasting more than any other people, spending more than $80

billion per year just on gambling. They've lost any notion of spirituality

and live in constant sin. With each passing day the USA demonstrates that it

doesn't know how to live with other peoples; for this, it deserves

destruction.

Al-Jazeera: Wouldn't it be easier to simply assassinate President George

Bush?

Al-Asuquf: In the first place, it would do no good, other than turning him

into a martyr. When you face a powerful enemy, the best strategy is not to

kill him, but to make him lose his leadership due to his incompetence, and

let him live to watch this unfold.

Al-Jazeera: Does the Al Queda network have the military capacity to make war

on the United States?

Al-Asuquf: If we analyze history, we will see that all great wars, before

they were started, were based on previously established concepts [of war].

But if we observe well, we will see that these concepts and strategies came

to nothing, since a new type of war was ultimately waged. An example is the

construction of the Maginot line by the French before the First World War,

which, in reality proved to be completely useless against the invading

forces. Aircraft carriers, nuclear submarines, and spy satellites will be

useless in the next war.

Al-Jazeera: American authorities hold more than 1,000 people suspected of

terrorism since September 11th. Won't this compromise Al Queda's plans?

Al-Asuquf: Of those imprisoned, perhaps 20 to 30 percent belong to Al Queda.

Moreover, they are from the second echelon. We have more than 500 members of

the first echelon and 800 from the second, inside the United States.

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Al-Jazeera: What do you mean by first and second echelons?

Al-Asuquf: In the first echelon are Al Queda members who have been in the

United States for more than 10 years, many married with children. They have

detailed knowledge of our plans and are just waiting for a phone call.

They are also known as "sleepers." Those of the second echelon have arrived

in the last five years and have no idea of our plans.

Al-Jazeera: Are even those who are married, with children, ready to die with

their families?

Al-Asuquf: Yes. All of them are ready to die. Long live September 11th.

Al-Jazeera: What was September 11th to Al Queda's overall plans?

Al-Asuquf: As a general step, it was just the beginning. It was a way of

calling the world's attention to what is still to come.

Al-Jazeera: How many members does Al Queda have?

Al-Asuquf: In the first echelon, about 5,000; in the second, about 20,000,

all over the world.

Al-Jazeera: In the detention camp at Guantanamo, are there any members of

the first echelon?

Al-Asuquf: No, in fact, many of those there are not even Al Queda members.

Al-Jazeera: How does Al Queda intend to destroy the most powerful nation in

history?

Al-Asuquf: It's a question of logistics. Using its own poison, that is,

attacking the heart of what they consider the most important thing in the

world: money.

Al-Jazeera: How so?

Al-Asuquf: The American economy is an economy of false appearances. There is

no real economic ballast to the American economy. The American GDP of is

something around $10 trillion, of which just 1 percent represents

agriculture, and just 24 percent represents industry. Therefore, 75 percent

of the American GDP is service and most of this is financial speculation.

For those who understand economics, and it appears that the American

Secretary of the Treasury, Paul O'Neil, doesn't or doesn't see it, it's

enough to say that the USA acts like a huge "dot-com," and dollars, strictly

speaking, are its shares.

Al-Jazeera: Can you explain that?

Al-Asuquf: The value of a company's shares is directly proportional to the

profitability of the enterprise. When a business is just a service provider

and doesn't produce any durable goods, the value of its shares depends on

its credibility. Which is to say that if the credibility of the USA were

shaken, its shares (the dollar) would fall with incredible rapidity and the

entire American economy would begin to collapse.

Al-Jazeera: How can you be so sure of this?

Al-Asuquf: On a smaller scale, it's exactly what large financial groups do

to the countries of the third world to reap profits in one month that Swiss

banks couldn't get in four or five years.

Al-Jazeera: So how will Al Queda shock the American economy to this point?

Al-Asuquf: By provoking a deficit of between $50 and $70 trillion dollars,

the equivalent of the United States' GDP for five to seven years.

Al-Jazeera: How will this be done?

Al-Asuquf: With the destruction of the seven largest American cities, along

with other measures.

Al-Jazeera: By what means will this be done?

Al-Asuquf: Using atomic bombs.

Al-Jazeera: With all of the security in the USA, how, hypothetically, will

these bombs be smuggled onto American soil?

Al-Asuquf: They won't be smuggled in, they're already there.

Al-Jazeera: What are you saying?

Al-Asuquf: There are already seven nuclear devices on American soil which

were put in place before September 11th and are ready to be detonated.

Al-Jazeera: How did they get in to the USA?

Al-Asuquf: Before September 11, American security was a fiasco, and even

after, were it necessary, we could manage to smuggle bombs into the United

States. They entered through seaports, as normal cargo.

Al-Jazeera: How is that possible? Al-Asuquf: A nuclear device is no bigger

than a refrigerator; therefore, it can be easily camouflaged as one.

Millions of cargo containers arrive in seaports each day, and no matter how

efficient security is, it's impossible to check, search through and examine

each container.

Al-Jazeera: Where did these atomic bombs come from?

Al-Asuquf: They were purchased on the black market.

Al-Jazeera: From whom?

Al-Asuquf: We bought five from the defunct Soviet Union and two more from

Pakistan.

Al-Jazeera: How is it possible to buy an atomic bomb? Isn't there security?

Al-Asuquf: Before 1989 it was practically impossible, however after the fall

of the Berlin Wall, the Russian army began a process of self destruction,

and some high generals began to lose their privileges, and therefore, highly

susceptible to corruption. Even General Lebeb, now deceased, and Hans Blix,

the head of the arms inspection commission of the United Nations, have

stated this, notwithstanding denials by Russian Defense Minister Seguey

Ivanov.

Al-Jazeera: How much does a nuclear bomb cost?

Al-Asuquf: Somewhere around $200 million.

Al-Jazeera: How did Al Queda get this money?

Al-Asuquf: We have numerous sponsors.

Al-Jazeera: Who are they?

Al-Asuquf: There are a number of countries which support us, and also

numerous wealthy individuals.

Al-Jazeera: Are all of these countries Arab?

Al-Asuquf: No, there are some European countries as well which have an

interest in the fall of the USA.

Al-Jazeera: Who are these wealthy individuals?

Al-Asuquf: People who are also tired of watching the USA suck the wealth out

of the rest of the world.

Al-Jazeera: Is Saddam Hussein one of them?

Al-Asuquf: You could say that he's just one of the collaborators, through

Abdul Tawab Mullah Hawaish, his vice-prime minister and the person

responsible for Iraq's arms program.

Al-Jazeera: Are these atomic bombs powerful ones?

Al-Asuquf: The five Russian devices are from the old T-3 missiles, also

known as RD-107s, and their potency is something around 100 kilotons each,

that is, 5 times as powerful as the Hiroshima bomb. The Pakistani bombs are

less powerful, somewhere around 10 kilotons.

Al-Jazeera: Can't the bombs be detected and disarmed by American

authorities?

Al-Asuquf: No, in spite of their age they've undergone modernization and are

well hidden. Even if they were found, they have auto-detonation provisions

should anything get close to them. Even electromagnetic pulses would be

incapable of deactivating them.

Al-Jazeera: Don't they emit radiation? Can't they be detected?

Al-Asuquf: No. They are wrapped in thick leaden cases.

Al-Jazeera: A suspected Pakistani ship was recently searched and all that

was found were lead bars. Does this have anything to do with the bombs?

Al-Asuquf: Yes, however that lead was just an extra layer, and was not

essentially necessary.

Al-Jazeera: How will the bombs be detonated?

Al-Asuquf: There are numerous methods, a cell-phone call, radio frequency,

seismic shocks or by timer.

Al-Jazeera: Once detonated, how many deaths will be caused by these bombs?

Al-Asuquf: It depends, since our plans are very malleable.

Al-Jazeera: So what is the entire plan?

Al-Asuquf: The beginning will be the detonation of a nuclear device, which

will cause the death of between 800 thousand and one million people and

create chaos on a scale never seen before. During this chaos, two or three

cropsprayers that are now dismantled and stored in granaries [silos?] close

to little-used highways in the countryside will take off on suicide missions

to spray two or three large American cities with smallpox. That means that

once the smallpox has been identified, all airports and seaports will be

closed by quarantine. Land borders will likewise be shut down. Not one

airplane, ship or vehicle will enter or leave the United States. This will

cause total chaos. White House Press secretary Ari Fleischman will be very

busy.

Al-Jazeera: But the American government has guaranteed that within five days

it could produce enough smallpox vaccine to inoculate the entire population.

Al-Asuquf: There will be simultaneous suicide attacks against the vaccine

production plants.

Al-Jazeera: Which will be the first city?

Al-Asuquf: The first city will be that in which optimal conditions present

themselves, for example, clear skies, and winds of eight miles-per-hour or

less in the direction of the country's center so that radioactive dust can

contaminate the maximum possible area.

Al-Jazeera: Will this attack annihilate the USA?

Al-Asuquf: No. But the process will have begun. Who will buy food products

from the United States knowing they may have been contaminated by radiation?

Who will travel to the United States knowing the possibility of

contracting smallpox? Who will continue to invest in American institutions?

Just as with the World Trade Center, it will be simply a question of time

before the entire economic structure collapses and turns to dust. If our

objectives are reached with one bomb and the smallpox, probably we'll save

the lives of others, however that's risky [unlikely?], and it's probable

that six more bombs will be detonated, one per week, and other attacks with

chemical weapons will be carried out.

Al-Jazeera: How many innocent people will die?

Al-Asuquf: According to estimates made by me and Ayman Al-Zawahiro,

somewhere around 15 million due to the atomic bombs and their radiation. Of

those exposed to smallpox, 25 percent will die, approximately five million,

and many more due to the ensuing chaos and disorder.

Al-Jazeera: What about the American military response?

Al-Asuquf: There will practically be none. Even if five or ten cities were

chosen at random to be destroyed, that would still be a small price to pay.

The problem is the economic despair will be so great that even economizing

by not using arms unnecessarily will occur, since the liquidity of American

goods will be almost zero and at that point the United States will make more

selling its Nimitz-class aircraft carriers, which cost about five billion

dollars, to Turkey or Italy for one billion dollars, since the country will

so urgently need to recapitalize, though it will be too late. Moreover, how

will the morale of American soldiers be knowing that their entire families

have died and their country no longer exists. Fight for what?

Al-Jazeera: And won't the global economy also be ruined?

Al-Asuquf: In the beginning it will be very difficult; a serious economic

crisis will ensue. However, without the United States, the world will soon

arise in a more just and fraternal manner.

Al-Jazeera: And Israel?

Al-Asuquf: As they say... it will be dessert.

Al-Jazeera: Does bin Laden's spokesman, Sulaiman Abu Gheith, know that you

are giving this interview?

Al-Asuquf: It was he and bin Laden who suggested I give it.

Al-Jazeera: Osama bin Laden is still alive?

Al-Asuquf: He is quite healthy, alongside his commanders Mohammed Atef and

Khalid Shaik Mohammed and Mullah Omar.

Al-Jazeera: Aren't you fearful that Al Queda's plans will be discovered?

Al-Asuquf: The plan is already in its countdown, and nothing can stop it.

Al-Jazeera: Not even if the United States asks forgiveness and changes its

attitudes?

Al-Asuquf: That won't happen, and even if it did, it's too late.

Al-Jazeera: When will the attack begin?

Al-Asuquf: I can't reveal that. Allah Akbar